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      Nope, it’s unfortunately not that easy in the US. Not only can police use your property for this… They aren’t liable for any damage they cause while doing so.

      Lech v. City of Greenwood Village is a relevant national case. Basically, police demolished a neighbor’s house while executing a warrant, and then refused to reimburse the neighbor. There is a Takings clause of the 5th amendment, that says the government can claim eminent domain and take private property, but they must provide just compensation for the property that was taken… The homeowner tried to argue that the demolition fell under the Takings clause, and therefore he was entitled to just compensation.

      The Supreme Court ruled that the police had no obligation to reimburse, as long as the damage occurred due to official police power. The SCOTUS essentially ruled that official police powers (like executing warrants, chasing suspects during an attempted arrest, or staging standoffs) do not invoke the Takings clause. Even if the powers were not directed at the person whose property was taken.

      So the pigs have carte blanche to use your shit, as long as they can justify the use as part of executing an official police power.

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    Walk outside, and ask, in a really loud, clueless voice:

    “Hi, guys! Watcha doin’? I’m just askin’, cuz y’know, you guys are out here, and I’m just wonderin’ why? Is somethin’ goin’ on? You guys on official business? Who ya aimin’ at? Can I get look? I’m never looked through a scope before, I bet it’s wicked cool, can I try? You guys need anything? Water, Doritos? Need to use the bathroom? I bet you do now that I mentioned it, huh? Isn’t it funny how that works? So you guys going to be around all day? That’s cool, I think I’ll just hang out, and keep you guys company, I’ll go get my folding chair, sure I can’t get you anything…”

    They’ll leave.

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    Good thing they brought scoped rifles so they can hit the perp right in that one skin pore top left of the wart on his upper lip.

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    I’m curious to know why they are there. They can’t have much in the way of line of sight from there.

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      When we had a guy stab another guy and hold his girlfriend hostage with a knife they deployed snipers to the rooftops of surrounding buildings and told us all to stay inside.

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      They have to justify their budget and military toys so every barricaded suspect situation becomes a 40 man standoff with shit like this. There’s probably a Bearcat off on a side street somewhere.

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        Coworker of mine had sniper’s set up on his front porch and screw tripods into his railing to hold the rifles when the neighbor’s kid had a mental health crisis and threatened suicide.

        He was threatening to hang himself, and the parent offered police the keys to the front door after SWAT arrived.

        They drove an MRAP through the garage doors, and still ended up using the keys anyway once inside the garage.

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          In an apartment complex I used to live there were 2 “police incidents” which were way overkill. A week or two after I moved in I got home and there were easily over a dozen cop cars in the parking lot. Cops were walking around with assault rifles and body armor. Shortly after I got home I got an email from complex stating there was a emergency situation and everyone was to stay in their apartment if home or stay out if not home. After a few more hours everyone left. What was the cause? A homeless man broke into a empty apartment but with no power had no a or fans and died of heat stroke. When the apartment was rented, one of the maintenance people went in to “prep for move in” and found the body.

          Second incident was worse. First 2 cop cars appeared, then atleast 6 more. The complex was on a corner of 2 roads and each of those were shut down by cops blocking them. There was 3 trucks with “swat” written on them. Then they started calling out on a PA system to come out with your hands up. This went on for 3 hours. Finally I hear/feel a shake/bang. Turns out they decided to use an explosive on one of the apartments to gain entry. The apartment was empty. I talked to some neighbors and found out some girl broke up with her boyfriend. She and another friend were home when he showed up and decided to beat her for breaking up with him. He didn’t know the friend was there and the friend walked up behind him and hit him with a bottle. The two girls then ran out of the apartment. They ran to a gas station and called the police. It was about 10 minutes until the police showed up and about 30 minutes before they shut down the roads, the complex was less than a mile from a major interstate highway. In addition the apartment was a first floor and had a sliding glass door to a small patio area. This meant they could a. See in the apartment and b. Just break the glass instead of using explosive on the front door. C. Just ask the office for a key instead of using an explosive. Seriously this was such overkill over nothing, yes guy was asshole and beating people up is never right but since it was about 45 minutes before the cops blocked the roads he easily could got away and onto the highway…

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          The insane amount of stupidity with toxic masculinity for all that to happen when all that has to be done is call the Suicide hotline or send out a therapist

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            Yeah, when leftists talk about defunding the police, we mean that police departments shouldn’t be dealing with situations like that. We should quit wasting money on assault rifles, and instead pay state therapists to be on call for mental health emergencies. Police cannot be adequately trained and equipped for situations like this while also responding to murders and arson and such. The job description is too broad, one person can’t be good at all of those different things. We need to cut the APC budget and put more money into a mental health emergency service.

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            Not everything is a “MAN PROBLEM”, this is a political issue, and a police state issue, and a capitalist hegemony issue. It’s just easier to dismiss everything as that one nail you think everything is because you took that one online class on hammers.

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              If you’ve got a few proverbial hours and an active interest in the subject, we could talk about the roots of patriarchy in modern day society and how they influence all of those things.

              If you don’t, then I shall shrug and wish you a good day.

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              Really, a chronic problem on lemmy. People are feminists or communists or bipoc or atheists or linux users, and so literally anything they don’t like, somehow, some way, is caused by the patriarcy/capitalists/racism/organized religion/Bill Gates. But when you start blaming Bill Gates for your stubbed toe, it becomes really obvious that what is actually happening is you are projecting your personal problems onto an external boogeyman as some kind of escapism.

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                Just implying it’s a gender issue is fascist by itself, and sexist. Though the sexism might be warranted if the commenters opinion has good reasoning behind it, the implications of hours of reasoning needed to offer enough information to be used as a basis for the opinion is an admission of being at fault to me.

                It shouldn’t be hard to say: I live in a fascist state.

                Instead it becomes: I’m a fascist, but here is why it’s not my fault

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          “I mean, Jody’s cool, he’s just helping her get through some stuff, y’know. She’s says I don’t get it, but who fucking cares about that girly shit anyway? Where’s that guy we gotta shoot? What’s taking so long?”

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      If the house across the street is on a corner, they can potentially see across an intersection to a house on the opposite corner. No way of knowing without the wider picture.

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    It’s hard to tell with the low resolution, but this looks like AI to me. The guy on the left’s feet look weird, and also the bricks don’t appear to have a consistent pattern. The layout of the house with the two garages separated by what I guess is a hallway also doesn’t make sense to me.

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      they’re duplexes/townhouses, that’s two separate dwellings. the picture is taken from a similar building, it would be one of those windows in what you called a hallway. The bricks look fine. Where you see a smaller brick that looks out of place, it’s actually turned 90 degrees so the brick extends into the structural wall behind it and ties the facade to teh structure.