I’m an immigrant in Germany and began learning German at eighteen. I’m C2 and getting my masters in German language instruction, but I still feel so exhausted after interacting in German for long periods of time. I’m also generally an introvert, so it’s draining in multiple ways. I know it’s just that I need more experience and there’s no real helping it, but it really kills my mood sometimes. I work as a salesperson/barista at a bakery, teach classes, and interact with all my friends in German, but my husband speaks perfect English and it’s such a relief to be able to talk to him in English at home.

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TL;DR of the above for anyone else: Socializing is a muscle which can and should be exercised.

Which I actually wholeheartedly agree with. I had a similar experience to you, though not as extreme. I had maybe one friend, didn’t talk to people, considered myself an introvert, basically the typical person you’re talking about. Then I met someone who taught me how to exercise that muscle, and encouraged me to meet other people. Took some time, but I went from having one friend, to having over a dozen. And I’m capable of actually talking to people I don’t know now, instead of clamming up and getting anxious, most of the time. Barring certain physical or mental disabilities, I always try to encourage my introvert friends to talk to others more, as much as it’s a horribly embarrassing, awkward, and especially draining experience at first.

This all being said, you sound like a douche. Especially with that last paragraph. Chill, my dude. Don’t immediately assume you’re gonna be under attack. There’s hardly enough people on this site to spam you with replies anyways.

I will go ahead and reap the anger and hate of the sheltered Lemmy masses here, but there’s no such thing as “being” an introvert or “being” an extrovert.

As I stated after your other comment, this is factually incorrect and genuinely dangerous misinformation.

https://lemmy.world/comment/20869844

Neurodiversity exists and what most ND people need isn’t to be changed or “cured” for the comfort and conformity of neurotypicals, but to be accepted and supported for who they are and how they think, feel, and function. You are actively perpetuating the myth that ND people just haven’t “tried hard enough” to pretend they are like you. Stop it! This ignorant bullshit literally kills people. ND people almost always know what society at large expects of them and they just aren’t wired that way. You clearly have no idea what masking takes out of someone.

Again, stop it. You have no idea how much harm you are doing by spreading these outright unscientific fantasies.

even if you’re completely repulsed by other people but lonely, even if you’re on the autistic spectrum, even if you’re completely down at the bottom of a cynicism and isolation hole.

This is not the same as being an introvert. (Which is a thing)

Some people facing some of these issues could perhaps use the term introvert to describe or justify themselves or their behaviours, but it doesn’t mean they are correct.

x-vertism is a behavioural archetype that changes with mental state. Nothing is absolute. Lots of social and structural factors impact people’s mental state from outside their control.

I can appreciate that what you’re saying is good willed, but it feels like the equivalent of telling a depressed person to try “not being sad.”

They’re descriptions of people by Carl Jung, one of the old timey psychologists. He’s the one that came up with all the vague horoscope-like definitions:

You know that one of the unfortunate qualities of introverts is that they so often cannot help putting the wrong foot forward. ~Carl Jung, Letters Vol. II, Pages 35-36.

Moreover there are not a few introverts who are so painfully aware of the shortcomings of their attitude that they have learned to imitate the extraverts and behave accordingly, and vice versa there are extraverts who like to give themselves the air of the introvert because they think they are then more interesting. ~Carl Jung, Letters Vol. II, Pages 564-565

In pathological cases, as you know, unconscious love also becomes a source of heightened fear of the object for the introvert, and, conversely, unconscious fear becomes a source of powerful attraction to the object for the extravert. ~Carl Jung, Jung-Schmid Correspondence, Pages 55-62.

The introvert does feel, too, and very intensely so, only in a different way than the extravert does. ~Carl Jung, Jung-Schmid Correspondence, Pages 55-62.

Whereas the extravert needs the object to bring his type to perfection and to cleanse his feeling, the introvert experiences this as a horrible violation and disrespect of his personality, because he absolutely refuses to be, so to speak, the chemical dry cleaner for the feelings of extraverts. ~Carl Jung, Jung-Schmid Correspondence, Pages 55-62.

This is not the case in the introvert. His representation of things is inadequate, precisely because of the lack of feeling- into [the object]. His thinking is in accordance with outer reality, but not with his own inner reality. ~Carl Jung, Jung-Schmid Correspondence, Pages 55-62.

This explains the often- observed fact that the introvert thinks and preaches all sorts of nice things but does not do them himself, in fact, does the contrary; whereas the extravert does all sorts of good and nice things but does not think them, in fact, often the contrary. ~Carl Jung, Jung-Schmid Correspondence, Pages 55-62.

The extravert knows, by feeling himself into others, by what human means people can be won over, whereas the introvert tries to create values in himself with which he tries to impress and force others toward him, or even bring them to his knees. ~Carl Jung, Jung-Schmid Correspondence, Pages 55-62.

Conversely, the introvert strains the pleasure- unpleasure mechanism in his unconscious by the conscious, idealistic desire to create the highest values proper to force others to come to him, thus degrading people to objects of his desire. ~Carl Jung, Jung-Schmid Correspondence, Pages 55-62.

The ideally oriented introverted person is faced with the fact that he scares away from himself precisely the human love and joy that he is really trying to find behind all his desire to impress and to be superior, and that he keeps and chains to himself only those inferior persons who know best how to cater to his desire. ~Carl Jung, Jung-Schmid Correspondence, Pages 55-62.

While the introvert’s conscious attitude is an impersonal and just attitude of power, his unconscious attitude aims at inferior lust and pleasure; and while the extravert’s conscious attitude is a personal love for human beings, his unconscious attitude aims at unjust, tyrannical power. ~Carl Jung, Jung-Schmid Correspondence, Pages 55-62.

I would say: the introvert also tries, through the hypothesis of abstraction, to reach the object, actually reality, which seems to him chaotic only because of the projection of his unused and therefore undeveloped feeling. He tries to conquer the object by thinking. But he wants to reach the object quite as much as the extravert. ~Carl Jung, Jung-Schmid Correspondence, Pages 55-62.

The only goal for the ideally oriented introvert is the production of impersonal, imperative values, and for the equally ideally oriented extravert the only goal is the love for the object. ~Carl Jung, Jung-Schmid Correspondence, Pages 55-62.

The fear the introvert feels rests on the unconscious assumption that the object is too much animated, and this is a part of the ancient belief in magic. ~Carl Jung, 1925 Seminar, Page 65

The extravert is controlled by his relation to the thing without, the introvert by his relation to the thing within. ~Carl Jung, 1925 Seminar, Page 64

The conscious extravert values his connection with the outer object and fears his own inner self. The introvert has no fear of himself, but great fear of the object, which he comes to endow with extraordinary terrors. ~Carl Jung, 1925 Seminar, Page 65

The extravert, on the other hand, takes his unconscious material in an introverted way, that is, with extreme caution and with many incantations to exorcise the inner power the object exercises over him. ~Carl Jung, 1925 Seminar, Page 66

I started with the primitive idea of the flowing out and the flowing in of energy, and from this I constructed the theory of the introverted and extraverted types. ~Carl Jung, 1925 Seminar, Page 86

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You on the other hand, you sound like a bot.

Took me less than 5sec to discover that he’s a legit artist, with a WP page.

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