I’m new as in this is my first day using lemmy. I don’t know anything about lemmy etiquette and don’t want to do anything bad

thanks and have an amazing day! also plz be kind :D

  • Gerudo@lemmy.zip
    389·
    3 months ago

    Each instance has its own vibe. You joined .ml, just a fair warning that a few instances and a chunk of Lemmy users have defederated/blocked it, so you may miss out on some content. Otherwise, pretty chill for the most part.

    • chillpanzee@lemmy.mlEnglish
      221·
      3 months ago

      I’m like OP from a few months ago. I joined ML because it was easy and sorta anonymous. What’s the story on ML? Who defederated? What am I missing?

      • TankieTanuki [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        362·
        3 months ago

        It’s the devs’ test instance.

        The devs are Marxist-Leninists. They’re the admins of the instance. Therefore the instance has nuanced-to-positive views on Actually Existing Socialist (AES) states, and allows for criticism of Democrats from the left.

        It’s been defederated by instances whose admins aren’t wiling to critically examine their lifetime of capitalist programming and are accustomed to Reddit’s universal condemnation of AES states.

        • QuietCupcake [any, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
          294·
          3 months ago

          For anyone reading this who might be scratching their head as to what “tankie” means, you can find descrriptions of its history a number of places, but for all intents and purposes here on the fediverse, it simply refers to the people who have the most education in history and socioeconomics. Since reality is in direct contradiction with most of the prevailing narratives pushed by the powerful beneficiaries of the dominant systems (the most obvious of these systems being capitalism), there will always be a contingent of true believers in the dominant narrative who are shocked to find that there are others who openly reject those narratives. The former will clutch their pearls, aghast that the propaganda they’ve believed all their lives is being questioned by these… these… muckrakers! And so a pejorative is used (hence the word “tankies”) to otherize and sequester the individuals best able to challenge those narratives, individuals whose presence tends to trigger the uncomfortable feeling of cognitive dissonance in those who aren’t yet ready or able to put their beliefs to honest questioning.

          In short, if you have no problem with seeing and reading perspectives that might make you question your own perspective, then you should have no problem with the “tankies.” And as for those who would actively defederate from those vile tankie instances so as to avoid having to confront even the possibility that their own beliefs are riddled throughout with deep misconceptions, well that should tell you something about the priorities of those tankie-fearing communities.

          • wolfinthewoods@lemmy.mlEnglish
            171·
            3 months ago

            Thank you friend. That is the most succinct explaination of ‘tankies’ I ever read.

          • ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml
            42·
            3 months ago

            The former will clutch their pearls, aghast that the propaganda they’ve believed all their lives is being questioned by these… these… muckrakers

            Well, to be fair, you should add that this definition matches also crazies on hexbear or ml who will defend EVERYTHING done by AES or Russia or China, because since Europe and USA are bad, then surely not those are always good.

            (Population of crazies is significantly smaller than 100%, but they tend to be remembered by the people throwing “tankies” at them).

            • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
              201·
              3 months ago

              “Tankie” is a strawman. It’s a pejorative for Marxists and anti-imperialists, filled with falsehoods and contradictions. The purpose of calling someone a “tankie” is to turn them into this strawman in the eyes of onlookers, it terminates the conversation. An example of this is you claiming so-called “tankies” think Russia is still a socialist country governed by a communist party, which is absurd. Russia does maintain strong ties to socialist countries like China, does oppose the western Empire, and does have rising socialist sentiment in the broader population, but absolutely isn’t socialist.

              The PRC is socialist, though. Public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy, and the working classes are in control of the state. Huge state owned industries are the backbone of the economy, while mixed forms of ownership make up the small and medium firms. Socialism isn’t the absence of private property, even under Mao and the Gang of Four there were still large numbers of private firms.

              As for what you call “authoritarianism,” what we communists support is the working class using state authority against capitalists. Authority should be used by the working classes. This confusion of yours is why you misunderstand China. The PRC is by no means “late stage capitalist,” rather it’s relatively early in socialist development:

              All in all, I suggest you listen more to these so-called “tankies,” rather than letting your imagination run wild.

            • BrainInABox@lemmy.mlEnglish
              161·
              3 months ago

              They’re pro-authoritarianism

              At this point you might as well just say that they’re “pro-badguyism”, because you’re operating on the level of Saturday morning cartoon logic where villains are evil for evils sake. Like seriously: “They just clumsily try to disguise themselves as being communists, but actually they just love evil!”? Are you listening to yourself?

                • BrainInABox@lemmy.mlEnglish
                  16·
                  3 months ago

                  Notice that they asked for an example and couldn’t provide one.

                  more due to the incompetence of the governing fascists than to lack of intent.

                  Oh ok, so the fascist is governing the US are well intentioned and want democracy and freedom, they just aren’t competent enough to achieve it. All of the USs enemies, though, are just evil.

                  And you call other people ultra-nationalist.

                • Davel@lemmy.mlEnglish
                  12·
                  3 months ago

                  It’s not due to incompetence. The US has never been a democracy by design. In fact, it’s working as intended. Previously:

                  The US government was never not captured by the bourgeoisie, because the US was born of a bourgeois revolution[1]. The wealthy, white, male, land-owning, largely slave-owning Founding Fathers constructed a bourgeois state with “checks and balances” against the “tyranny of the majority”. It was never meant to represent the majority—the working class—and it never has, despite eventually allowing women and non-whites (at least those not disenfranchised by the carceral system) to vote. BBC: [Princeton & Northwestern] Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy

            • Davel@lemmy.mlEnglish
              13·
              3 months ago

              Literally no one fucking claims that Russia is communist. You’re just here to spout utter bullshit. GTFO.

        • Anarcho-Bolshevik@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
          8·
          3 months ago

          What is it that you think would motivate a lower-class Westerner to sympathize with the Russian Federation and the People’s Republic of China?

          Having nothing better to do?

        • BrainInABox@lemmy.mlEnglish
          7·
          3 months ago

          a bot or other disinformation agent pretending to be one

          Are people who claim to be leftists but turn out to be full blown NeoMcCarthyists tankies?

    • silica@lemmy.ml
      161·
      3 months ago

      Holy shit! That’s why a lot of my old communities haven’t been subscribed to yet.

      From a really sad lemm.ee refugee. I miss that instance.

      Any suggestions of chill instances just for tech, games and comics?

    • geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
      133·
      3 months ago

      Each instance has its own vibe. You joined [Any Lemmy instance, just a fair warning that a few instances and a chunk of Lemmy users have defederated/blocked it, so you may miss out on some content. Otherwise, pretty chill for the most part.

      You can replace .ml with any Lemmy instance. The most Lemmy thing remains all the instance tribalism.

      • Gerudo@lemmy.zip
        46·
        3 months ago

        Yes, but a new user needs to know the instance they join has pros and cons. Like another user stated, they joined .ml after lemm.ee closed and didn’t know why several communities they had subscribed to weren’t showing up.

        Let’s be real for a second, lemmygrad, .ml and. hexbear are well known for blocking and being blocked on Lemmy. Users should know Lemmy isnt like reddit where each user can potentially see 100% of content, it’s dependent on your instance.

        • geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
          91·
          3 months ago

          Lemmygrad an Hexbear sure. Nobody will recommend those as servers to start off.

          .ml however is a pretty general server which is federated very broadly. It’s not a bad place to start off.