A second teacher at a high school in Missouri was put on leave after administrators discovered her OnlyFans side hustle.

Megan Gaither, 31, said during an interview with the St. Louis Post-Dispatch that she was placed on leave from her English teaching and varsity cheerleading coach position on Oct. 27 after district officials found out about her account on the OnlyFans platform.

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    Someone gets naked so everyone loses their minds.

    People shoot up schools: thoughts and prayers, thoughts and prayers…

    Religion is insanity.

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      Lots of countries have religion, but not many countries have guns as the leading cause of death among children and teens.

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        Yeah, instead they do things like kill LGBTQ people with machetes or put you in prison for apostasy.

        Religion is insanity.

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        We’re supposed to have separation of church and state to avoid this type of violence from religious zealots, but the us government decided to legalize bribery so they used the insane wealth they’ve amassed, in part due to tax-exempt religious status, to buy their way in.

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        Religion is insanity.

        Thoughts and prayers, thoughts and prayers… People shoot up schools

        Everyone loses their minds so someone gets naked.

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      To be fair I doubt a teacher that shoots up a school would be allowed to keep their job either, but these days who knows.

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    How did they discover the page? I’m curious about this.

    Gaither said in the interview that she made an account on the direct-to-subscribers website because she has over $125,000 in student loans and needed the extra income.

    “Teaching does not financially support a person,” Gaither said. “It’s really hard to stretch those paychecks during the summer. That’s why I did it.”

    According to the report, Gaither’s pay, which includes a stipend for coaching the school’s cheerleading squad, was around $47,500.

    When Gaither took the account down, she claimed to have had around 1,500 subscribers and was bringing in an extra $3,000 to $5,000 per month.

    47,5/12= ~3.96k per month

    With an onlyfan page, she made more than the teaching job. The issue isn’t her onlyfan page. It’s the paycheck at the end of the month. They must pay more. Supervisors also have to stop going on onlyfan for other thing than work. I don’t believe they discovered it by chance.

    Onlyfan is one of the symptoms of low income not a problem.

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      Jesus, I make like 3k less and never finished college. I do a shit job on phones. She gets peanuts for putting up with BS and doing 1.5 jobs for a school. Teachers don’t get enough.

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        The teachers that I know all get summer jobs which bumps their yearly income up several thousand dollars.

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          A lot of teachers need to use the summers for conferences and planning lessons for the upcoming year. (My wife was a teacher.)

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            If it’s a required thing they should obviously get paid for that time.

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              If it’s the same in the US as in where I lived, the employer will try to push working hours count to as low as possible. Like, you must do this and that to prepare for work but who knows how much time you spend for that so we pay nothing.

              To be fair, this is not uncommon in other fields, where you must get better to stay useful for an employer but that effort is only “paid” in rases (sometimes) or not being fired.

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      She’s a high school teacher. I’m gonna guess the students figured it out first.

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        I’m in the “her life her business” camp, but I can at least see how that could be a problem given teachers like Mary Kay (I can’t spell her last name, the blonde that seduced the 6th grader) but I’m also in the camp of: “parents it’s your responsibility to police your kids” if the parents are concerned about their kids seeing nudity

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            At 12, you are still developing and cannot give consent to an adult for something like that. The fact that he said it was fine as an adult is irrelevant and is why the term grooming exists. (By the way, he said during their separation that he realized it was never a healthy relationship.)

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          And then there’s the “treat the cause, not the symptom.” The cause was her low pay. She couldn’t make ends meet and needed to rely on an OnlyFans account to supplement her income. Maybe pay teachers a livable wage and they won’t need to get side gigs?

          Or we could just fire every teacher who tries to make ends meet in a way that some parent disapproves of and then have no teachers left.

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        Which one of those kids is gonna rat out their teacher?

        My guess it was someone in admin who found it … maybe not the first but they would have been the one to pull the plug.

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    So. Underpaid highschool teacher is held to a higher standard then checks notes ex-president(and traitor to) the united states.

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    It is sad to me that the focus isn’t on trying to pay her a living wage so she doesn’t have to have a side hustle. And by the way, all the “free market, lift yourself up by your bootstraps and just get another job” judgmental assholes can just fuck off because that’s exactly what she is doing.

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      Teacher pay, aide pay, and student loan debt should be the conversation were having here in my opinion. Not the morality of only fans and especially not useless crap like her username.

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      Exactly this. My wife was a teacher, but hasn’t been in a classroom in over 15 years. When she was pregnant with our second son, we did some budgeting. Take her salary and subtract after school care for our oldest son and daycare for our youngest son and we had $3,000 left over. Not $3,000 a month - $3,000 a year.

      And that was before clothing appropriate for school, supplies for school, gas to get to school, and the mydrid of other expenses that come with being a teacher. If she remained a teacher, we wouldn’t be earning money. We would be paying for her to remain tracking

      So she stopped teaching and became a stay at home mother.

      (By the way, we used her salary because hers was the smaller one. Had mine been the smaller salary, I would have quit and become a stay at home dad.)

      We once calculated how much she earned per hour. Given that she was getting in before school to set up, working late after school to help kids out or grade papers, and working holidays to get lesson plans in place, she was making less than minimum wage. She would literally have made more per hour at McDonald’s.

      Teachers are very important and deserve more than “maybe, if you’re lucky, you’ll end up with minimum wage.”

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        Same situation, same calculus.

        All up we were $100/month “better” off with my wife working.

        We agreed that “paying” $25/week was worth it to have mum at home raising our litter.

        It was very nice to come home to a relaxed home rather than a stressed gang of animals.

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      I think we need to change the focus, in order to get the misogynists on board. Explain to them that by not paying the teachers in the local District a living wage, they will force all the hot teachers onto OnlyFans to make their living. And their sons will only have frumpy teachers when they get to high school. That ought to scare them.

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      She’s definitely getting paid a living wage.

      Do you think she would die without her side hustle? Or is she trying to live as luxurious a life as possible?

      I know what I’d put my money on.

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        Subsistence wage is what you are thinking of, to meet basic biological necessities. A living wage allows for moderate comfort, because there is more to living than just surviving.

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          You’re thinking of a ‘respectable wage.’

          Living wage means just that. A wage that enables you to live.

          there is more to living than just surviving.

          I guess if you don’t understand the meaning of the word ‘living’, then sure. It can mean whatever you want, lol.

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            You’re thinking of a ‘respectable wage.’

            You’re saying teachers don’t deserve a ‘respectable wage’?

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              I’m saying she had a livable wage already.

              Everyone deserves a respectable wage, but we should not conflate wants with needs.

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                Everyone deserves a respectable wage,

                So we are all agreeing she should be getting paid more as a teacher, but you’re arguing semantics instead of the issue at hand.

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              Yes, she was getting paid a living wage.

              Needs are defined to include food, housing, and other essential needs such as clothing.

              If you can’t afford all of these on a $50k/year salary, it’s your fault for being bad with money.

              Something tells me she drives a nicer car than me and lives in a nicer apartment while eating nicer food and rarely cooking her own meals.

              No, this is greed, not need. And it’s next to impossible to call it out for what it is because of how many people participate in it.

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              Lol, I’m sorry you’re mad I’m calling out greed for what it is.

              Probably because you contribute to it but don’t want to acknowledge it.

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        My wife was a teacher. I’ve seen what teachers get paid and what they need to pay for (supplies for their room that are essential but that the districts refuse to pay for). It’s actually very likely that this teacher was barely scraping by on her teacher salary.

        Edit: From the article:

        According to the report, Gaither’s pay, which includes a stipend for coaching the school’s cheerleading squad, was around $47,500.

        The article also mentions that she had $125,000 in student loans. She wasn’t living a life of luxury on that salary. Opening an OnlyFans was a means of making ends meet.

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            It depends on where you live. This teacher wasn’t in NYC, but a salary of $47,500 might not get you much there. Your rent alone could take all of your post-tax salary.

            And don’t forget that teachers also often have to pay for classroom supplies (including things like tissues which should just be given to them by the district). So their expenses can be higher than other people’s. They are also expected to continue learning - often on their dime.

            But setting all that aside, $47,500 would be about $36,000 after taxes which is $3,000 a month. A $125,000 student loan at 6% interest to be paid off in 7 years would cost $1,826 a month. That leaves her $1,174 to live off of.

            This page gives cost of living numbers for Missouri. Even the low figures are over $2,000. So she’d have a $800+ shortfall.

            There are a lot of people who go into the teaching profession and quickly leave it once they realize that they can’t survive on a teacher’s income. Teachers deserve more.

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        Do you think she’d have a life any of us in the same country would voluntarily take on? Do you actually know how hard being a teacher is?

        I know what I’d put my money on, for both questions.

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    This is the only reaction people will have when the article drops about her getting fired. Then she gets more viewers, and probably makes more than she ever would have as a teacher.

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      This is ridiculous. What she does on OnlyFans has absolutely nothing to do with her performance as a teacher and it is disgusting that teachers that we desperately need are not only getting fired for being forced to do outside work to afford to be able to live and also buy supplies for their own classrooms but that they’re getting excoriated for it.

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        No they need to get real jobs…like at retail so everyone can harass them more and/or recognize them and feel bad while not actually doing anything.

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      In this case I think it is.

      It’s not that she’s a sex worker that’s the issue it’s the fact that teens can barely keep their head clear is they have a cute teacher they could picture naked. That effect would be 1000% worse if you can simply give your teacher five bucks to slap her kitty while saying your a great student.

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        This is like blaming the victim for being shot. It’s a 100% the guy with the gun

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          It’s not at all the same.

          In this case she would be the victim and the shooter. She shot herself in the foot, there are hundreds of ways to spoliate identity effectively on onlyfans and she chose not to. She knew her fan ase and took advantage then claimed to be the victim.

          If it weren’t a teacher pandering customized pornography to underage school children would it be ok? I’m gunna guess no, it’s essentially pedophilia at distance.

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          Correct. I’m not saying I agree with it but I am saying I understand the reasoning.

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      That’s not how public school teachers operate.

      For example, you’re not allowed to be visibly drunk in public if you are a public school teacher.

      There are good reasons for this. Teachers are supposed to be role models for students, so seeing one passed out in the gutter isn’t acceptable.

      If you don’t like it, then don’t become a public school teacher. There are plenty of other jobs you can do.

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    The irony of this is being put on administrative leave and ending up on the news is likely to make her OF blow up. Probably a win/win for her.

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    Speculation about Gaither’s involvement on the platform began in mid-October when she was seen in a video posted on Coppage’s account. While the video didn’t include Gaither’s face, it was recorded at a party, and she was seen in a public picture wearing the same costume that was worn in the video posted on OnlyFans, according to the report.

    So are we not going to call into question the “professionalism” of whoever found this video? Or did someone just accidentally make their way to onlyfans and pay to access her content. 🙄

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      Don’t imagine they knew who it was before paying for it, seeing as the only way to see who it was is to pay for it first. To be fair I’d be surprised and uncomfortable if I knew my kid had a teacher who they could find videos of her spread eagle naked whenever they wanted. If the sexes were reversed and it was a male porn star who was teaching children there would be a national uproar. I don’t have anything against sex work but some jobs just don’t really mesh together too well, this is one such situation. The obvious solution is just to pay our fucking teachers more so they don’t have to get second jobs to live but people would rather just yell at her like she’s doing this for shits and giggles because that’s easier than addressing the root problem.

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        Ridiculous that we “cant find” the money to pay the people educating the next generation more than this women is/will be making this year from posting photos and videos of herself online. Reveals a number of priorities that are out of line.

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          Yeah agree entirely. And we’ll pay it for as the years go on. I really don’t understand how investing in the future of our country is somehow a partisanship issue. I guess republicans just love inflicting misery more than their so called “patriotism”.

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      I had a home ec teacher that was found out to do playboy spreads. As a young teenager I did not care. My parents did not care(they were hippies). Who cared the most were dumbass older teenage boys for some reason writing her porn name on the chalkboard before she came in one day. It was like they were angry at her for turning them on. That’s when I realized men’s sex education and support for processing complex thought and feelings around relationships and sex is abysmal.

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        It might not have been about making them horny. They just found something to bully the teacher about and used it. Teenagers are monsters.

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            Nah, seen plenty monstrous teenagers with decent parents. But with monster parent its more likely monster teenagers.

            But maybe your right, i cant see inside homes, maybe all monster teenagers have parental deficiencies.

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              Actually agree.

              IMHO we are entirely the product of our environment and upbringing: initially a blank slate. Deficiency or poison in either produces problems.

              Sometime those deficiencies and poisons are parents.

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                Nah, there are definitely correlation and causation in a lot of cases but there are definitely also kids who are just born evil, as if they’re infuriated at the world for their having been born.

                They’re a rare breed but far too dangerous to write off when discussing things that affect the public.

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                  I fundamentally disagree that someone can be born evil.

                  Someone can be born a psychopath, but they can still be raised to logically understand the norms of society and mimic them.

                  There are, however, a couple of generations born with lead poisoning from leaded petrol: that will stop a brain functioning properly.

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        If you don’t understand or respect your emotions it isnt like you suddenly don’t have them, you still do you just don’t know what to do with them.

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        As a young teenager I did not care.

        Were you a young teenage girl? Because you seem to completely lack understanding of teenage boys’ psychology. There’s absolutely no reason they would be angry at her for making them horny. That makes no sense at all.

        I would agree with your other replier on this. Furthering that, I would say this is the teenage boys’ attempt to challenge authority by undermining her authority with her open sexuality as a tool. They found a leverage to have power over her. And they’re going to use it to the full extent. They’re at a point in time of their growth where they find their social hierarchy. Almost every male mammal engages in this. They pick fights and they learn where they stand by winning and losing. And they want to get as high as possible. This explains the anger that you pointed out, because challenging authority and fighting is inherently similar emotion to anger.

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          You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. Please let the adults who are educated continue discussing these topics. Literally everything you just said was wrong.

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            If you’re an adult, you should learn to address the argument, not make ad hominem attacks.

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              Dear kavanaugh,

              Stop raping women and pretending like it’s just the beer talking.

              We sincerely hate you,

              Women.

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                You still lack the ability to address the content. You’re just spewing out things you’re familiar with. You’re not actually engaging in any discussion.

                No one should rape anyone. I don’t see how this is relevant to this discussion.

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              Apparently nothing. Since I’ve had 0 actual counter argument so far. All I got is name calling and starwman.

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          Because you seem to completely lack understanding of teenage boys’ psychology. There’s absolutely no reason they would be angry at her for making them horny. That makes no sense at all.

          Ah. I see you are one of those types of bigots.

          As you surely didn’t forget a whole array of other non binary genders some of which actually get beaten to death for ‘turning straight men on.’

          Also some cultures will stone women for ‘turning men on enough to rape them’. That has nothing to do with ‘challenging authority’ in fact it’s gross you even compare it to that. It’s all about attacking vulnerable.

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      Probably not a popular take but I can at least understand it from the perspective of it just being easier to put her on paid leave than to play whackamole punishing every kid who starts bullying her or disrespecting her because stupid teenagers.

      It’s the dumbfuck no tolerance logic that inadvertently encourages kids to respond to being bullied by pulling a knife since they gettin’ punished either way for being in a fight, but it does make the twisted kind of sense you can expect from admins who hate nothing more than doing their jobs instead of sitting at their desk playing minesweeper all day.

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        Perpetuating the stigma isn’t going to help either. Kids take their cues from adults.

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      Humans are social creatures. We are affected direct and indirectly by other people whether you like it or not (unless you want to become a hikikomori).

      The fact that other people give a shit about about someone making porn in their free time, should make you give a shit. This is irrelevant to whether you think they should give a shit or not. Your lack of ability to give a shit signals your lack of foresight into how this affects your life as well as lack of social skills. If she wants to be an OF model, and therefore chooses to do OF content, that’s fine. If she wants to be a teacher and thinks she can do OF without consequence, she’s stupid.

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        L take and completely wrong. Fuck people for not only judging for something harmless, but also for directly impacting her life because of it when she didn’t impact anyone else’s.

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          What part am I wrong about? Her OF account has clearly affected her job as a teacher. The evidence of what I said is right there. You’re in denial of facts of what has already occurred. If she didn’t see this coming, she’s stupid.

          I don’t care if you think people shouldn’t be judgmental. You’re being judgement of me right now. And I am of you right now. People always are, always have been and always will. That’s how humans work. Your denial or calling it out as bad is irrelevant in your ability to plan for the future.

          Edit: Let me be clear. I am not defending the judgmental. I am pointing out the lack of social understanding.

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            In that same vain then, I shouldn’t dress “slutty” in public otherwise I’m just asking to get raped right? Get fucked.

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              Because you couldn’t point out what was wrong, you decided to take a strawman? No, that is not the same vain. The logic isn’t consistent.

              It would be: If she doesn’t want to get raped, she should take precautions based on the risks involved.

              If this teacher doesn’t want to be fired, she should understand that there are risks that follow her actions.

              If I follow your logic, the statement of the teacher would become:

              She must’ve wanted to get fired, so she did OF. No, the predicate the consequences are backwards.

              Being stupid is not a defense. And your argument is illogical.

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              No, that is not the same vain. The logic isn’t consistent.

              It would be: If she doesn’t want to get raped, she should take precautions based on the risks involved.

              If this teacher doesn’t want to be fired, she should understand that there are risks that follow her actions.

              If I follow your logic, the statement of the teacher would become:

              She must’ve wanted to get fired, so she did OF. No, the predicate the consequences are backwards.

              Being stupid is not a defense. And your argument is illogical.

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                  I did not victim blame. I wish logic and/or discrete mathematics is a requirement education in the world. Then we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

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        Being a social creature doesn’t mean you get veto power over how others live their lives. Your justification thus falls flat as does your victim blaming argument.

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          When you were little, did you parents teach you to look both ways before crossing the street? Even when you’re at a stop sign or at a green light? Probably, since you’re still alive. Why did they do that? You’d be in the right. If a car hit you, you’d be the victim, 100%. But you do that anyway because being right or being the victim is completely irrelevant. It’s not about who gets the blame. It’s about what gives you the best outcome. You looking both ways before crossing the street has the best outcome for you. It doesn’t matter if you’re right if you’re fucking dead.

          If she wanted the best outcome of staying as a teacher, she shouldn’t have done OF. This should be a very easy deductive logic people should be able to make given what is the current society.

          This is not victim blaming. I lean quite far left, and this is one of the most insanely annoying thing I find about the left. Far too many only look about who’s the victim and whose to blame. That shit is fucking stupidest outlook on life. It’s a good goal to attain, a world without problem causing things. But unless utopia happens, you need to learn to figure out how the world works. Failure to do that simply means you’re stupid. You might be a victim, but you’re still stupid.

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            Your analogy is false. This is victim blaming and a gross violation of privacy. On your off time you are free to do what you want your employer is not paying you for that time.

            You sound like one of those no-fap types btw.

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              How is my analogy false? How did I victim blame? What did I blame her of? I said nothing of such. You’re going to have to substantiate your claim.

              I masterbate and have no issues others materbating. In fact I already said it’s fine if she wants to do OF.

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        If she wants to be a teacher and thinks she can do OF without consequence, she’s stupid.

        This comment reeks of trying to control women’s sexuality.

        Meanwhile you probably think ‘good job’ when firefighters make a topless calendar and have no qualms if they show up to put out the fires.

        You smell of double standard vomit.

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          I’m not trying to control her sexuality. I, in fact, said it’s fine if she wants to do OF. So you have read me wrong. I pointed out people’s inability to predict the future.

          You have judged me for judging on things I didn’t say. You smell of hypocrisy.

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    This is DISGUSTING. Someone please post her handle or website so I can avoid it.

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    Imagine if we just paid teachers better so that they didn’t sometimes resort to this to make ends meet. Nah, let’s persecute the poor teacher instead!

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      The average teacher was in the bottom 20% of their class. It seems like we need to incentivize higher skilled people to teach. Pay is just part of it.

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        It’s hard to spend years getting a master’s degree and then to go work on a teacher’s salary. But then to be a professor, it’s another 6-8 years above and beyond a master’s to get a PhD (during which you’re making jack shit and aren’t allowed to work off campus). On top of that, higher ed is apparently ridiculously competitive and an insane amount of thankless long hours for a slightly higher shit salary than high school teachers. The whole culture around and within education needs changing. A lot of changing. It’s so disappointing.

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    I keep wondering when the war on teachers is going to spread to my district. Given how many Republican “parent choice” signs I see up I don’t think I have long. Really would have liked my kids to go to a functional school.

    I don’t care if my kids teacher does porn.

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        I don’t get your point other than snark. Frankly I don’t think you get it. When some Karen causes issues it hurts everyone. It means teachers quit, it means less go in the field, it means that parent-teacher relationships are more sour.

        Yes I don’t care if a teacher does porn and me not caring matters as much as the fuckface who decided to care about this! We have for some freaken reason decided that whomever gets offended is the one who makes the rules as long as they are louder than the ones not offended.

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      Choice for everything we’re care about the way we want it under our rules! Take it or leave it!

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      Hell I’d just be watching and jacking myself anyway. I wanna go to the PTA meeting, and that is like hell for me so, you know…

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      Like those family members who outed the other family members for not keeping their eyes closed while saying Grace at the table.

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        I always just happened to be picking my nose with my middle finger and looking directly at them. Try me, cousin. Me & Satan are like >this<, so who’s on your team?

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      Do you have any idea how many videos I had to watch until I discovered something that I found offensive, it’s disgusting. Only fans needs a better search engine.

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        No, that the admins “discovered” her account as part of some official investigation, rather than subbing avidly before ratting her out from their own unprocessed self-loathing (or getting caught perving, who knows).

        edit: I’m not even gonna begin to unpack the sociological content of “cheerleader coach” and “sexualized teacher”.

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    Am I wrong in assuming that OF, and people making money of it, isn’t that mainstream at all?

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      Pure speculation here, but I feel like it’s an American thing. With the minimum wage over there being stupid low, coupled with “grind-set culture”, the young generation is doing everything it can to make money to meet their fame-obssessed ideals. The effort to reduce sex-worker stigma probably helps a lot too.

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        if by “fame-obsessed ideals” you mean earning a living wage and being able to buy school supplies for your students, then yes.

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          Cost of living troubles aren’t unique to America, and yet 45% of OnlyFans content creators are American. There’s something else at play, and I’d argue it’s cultural.

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        the young generation is doing everything it can to make money to meet their fame-obssessed ideals.

        What the bleeding hell is that supposed to mean?

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          “Being rich” is idealised by Americans, their culture is baked in it. The Kardashians, every YouTuber flaunting their exhaustive fortunes, people showing off wads of cash on Snapchat/Instagram. The whole bit about having an android phone being a turn off, which seems to be almost entirely isolated to Americans. If I had to guess, I’d say it stems from African Americans requiring money to “escape the hood”, and that culture permeating to other ethnicities (likely via music). If my theory is correct, then it would follow that people might go to greater levels to attain wealth in a culture that idealises it so heavily. Did that explain my viewpoint?

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            I’m not going to write a paper because it’s 0100 my time and I mean this politely. You are wrong. What you’re seeing is the veneer presented to the world by Hollywood and Social Media. American youth are actually turning their backs on traditional status symbols like cars.

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              The success of this veneer is indicative of my point. You can’t hand wave social media away, this upcoming generation is deeply involved in it. The success of these trends means they’re being actively consumed. There are loads of studies suggesting youth develop mental health disorders as a direct result of seeing (often financial) success amongst peers on social media. I did posit that my point was fairly speculative, but at least I cited commonplace social trends bolstering my point. You’ve just said “no, not true”.

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                Yeah sorry about that it really was one in the morning. So I wasn’t going to write much more than that. You’re not wrong that Social Media can be damaging to mental health in kids more vulnerable to peer pressure. But once kids are at the age where they’re turning into adults we’re seeing far less consumption of fashion and luxuries. That is a combination of the cost of living crisis and some x factor we haven’t figured out yet. But they are driving less, drinking less, having less sex, buying less fashion, less jewelry, less services, etc.

                Every economic indicator is a drop in demand. And studies like the iPhone/Android one forgo looking at any actual cause, leaving people to believe whatever they want. Like the fact that Apple restricts the features available in a chat with non Apple devices. So now the entire Internet is blaming a subset of teenagers for Apple’s anti competitive behavior.