“Your kids will grow up in a world with no ‘off the record’,” he writes to any parents reading his post. “Teach them that the best privacy strategy is integrity, living so that being seen costs you nothing. And fight, hard, for a world where the watching goes both ways.”

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    What if it goes the other way? People do so much weird shit when they’re alone. I can imagine a timeline where nothing is off limits anymore, because all deviant behaviour becomes normalized.

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    Funny how the same standard doesn’t apply to the Epstein class though. Rules for thee, but not for me. Redacted redacted redacted. 🤐

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    You children will grow to love the panopticon. They will learn their place and never question it, even in private, because there is no private anymore. They will never have any original thoughts or conversations because those lead to crimes. If you don’t want to commit crimes, then why are you not repeating the norms of the society we have created for you? Clearly you are formenting some criminal plot.

    Against the wall citizen!

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    Okay bud, wire yourself for video and sound and stream it online 24/7 then. Being seen can always cost you something. Doesn’t mean you’re doing something wrong. Sometimes what you’re doing is just embarrassing and you’d rather it not be recorded for posterity. People need to start getting their asses beat for voicing shitty opinions like this.

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    Not better; different. They behave the way the people doing the watching want them to behave. Whether that’s better is purely situational, and that (among others) is why global surveillance is a bad idea.

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      +1. I think what it does, is enforce conformity. Even without authoritarians, there is still a form of tyranny from group pressure. Ppl become less willing to oppose the majority under total surveilence.

      Sometimes, the majority gets things right. Other times, not so much. History is filled with examples. We need room for our MLK Jrs, our Ghandis, our Schindlers, to oppose the norms.

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        Its a well studied phenomena. When watched, people behave more in the way they think they are expected to behave.

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    We all know that watching people makes them behave differently, so why does TechCrunch feel the need to remind me of that right now in particular?

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    There are things outside morality that are subject to shame and judgement. But also freedom can be defined in the ability to make the choices others would like you not to. Mass surveillance aims to enable punishment of freedom.

    And beyond all that, philosophically, there is no virtue without the capacity for vice. Integrity is often described as what you do when nobody’s watching.

    Oh and this mass surveillance is already seriously fucking with everyone’s heads. So many people are living increasingly performatively. Between mass surveillance and social media it’s becoming more and more normal to feel this shame and self consciousness that impairs the ability to just live.

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    If that were the case then people would be so well behaved considering that people post everything to social media nowadays.

    Or maybe this psychopathic piece of shit knows HE would behave if he was being monitored again proving that every accusation is really just a confession?

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    If he thinks privacy is bad, then he can publish every email, text and message he’s ever sent/received. Then wear a camera around his neck all the time, never taking it off.

    I won’t hold my breath on this.

    What a dickhole.

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    Both ways? Ok, let’s see the billionnaire while he’s on the toilet. Let’s see how exactly he fuels anti-labour movements. Let’s see how corrupt he is. Let’s see how he must be made to be unbillionnaire’d. Let’s know every single minute of his life. Let’s block asset and person access to offshore islands and his creephouses. Let’s stop him everywhere with the car, at the airport, subject him to rigid controls, go through his phone, his flipphone, his notes, and everything.

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      And fight, hard, for a world where the watching goes both ways

      So it’s top-down by default, and if the underclass fights hard enough, they míght get a “trust me bro, this is all data there is, and we certainly didn’t destroy any”.

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        The Epstein class is corrupt. Only all those that recognise class struggle are legit. That is, those that support the labourers in their opposition against coal and oil industry, against trusts and wage theft. Whether queer or not, the capitalist attempts to pit one against another while they attempt to drown us in the pit of climate collapse. But they too shall fail, as we unite, share, help one another, and bring down the corrupt fascist oligarchs.

        Trump should get the treatment of Maduro. All coal, gas, and oil CEOs should be thrown into their own field pits.