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The post Xitter web has spawned so many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

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  • fiat_lux@lemmy.world
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    WTF is this garbage in the Graurdain? ā€œLet’s assume!ā€ is a terrible premise for even an opinion column to begin with, but ā€œlet’s assume Musk is right and AI could allow us all to not workā€ is… bananas for the Guardian to publish. Even before considering that the author’s bio says he’s a business owner of a technology and financial management services company.

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      The article’s entire premise is Musk saying some random shit. Remember how Musk said that he would land a man on Mars in 10 years 13 years ago? Honestly, I am incensed that people like Musk and Trump can just say shit and many people will just accept it. I can no longer tolerate it.

      Putting aside the very real human ability to screw up such a concept and turn any fair system into an unfair one, …

      He says this after mentioning UBI. He really doesn’t want to confront the unfortunate fact that UBI is entirely a political issue. Whatever magical beliefs one may have about how AI can create wealth, the question of how to distribute it is a social arrangement. What exactly stops the wealthy from consolidating all that wealth for themselves? The goodness of their hearts? Or is it political pushback (and violence in the bad old days), as demonstrated in every single example we have in history?

      I’d say the problem is even worse now. In previous eras, some wealthy people funded libraries and parks. Nowadays we see them donate to weirdo rationalist nonsense that is completely disconnected from reality.

      No getting up early and commuting on public transit. …

      This is followed by four whole paragraphs about how the office sucks and wouldn’t it be wonderful if AI got rid of all that. Guess what, we have remote work already! Remember how, during COVID, many software engineering jobs went fully remote, and it turned out that the work was perfectly doable and the workers’ lives improved? But then there were so many puff pieces by managers about the wonderful environment of the office, and back to the office they went. Don’t worry, when the magical AI is here, they’ll change their minds.

      Yes, there are ā€œmindless, stupid, inane thingsā€ like chores that are unavoidable. There are also other mindless, stupid, inane things that are entirely avoidable but exist anyway because some people base their entire lives around number go up.

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        This was my thought the whole time: if the political will existed, we could probably already do everything that AI is supposed to ā€œenableā€ here. Some of the work people would choose not to do would end up being actually important, and the market in its infinite power would need to find a way to get that work done, whether that’s paying more to invent new types of automation or compensating people enough that they choose to do it without the threat of starvation and homelessness (or finding new ways to exploit people to do it, but I believe there’s a floor on that at which the other two options become more economically viable), but that’s the whole pitch for having a labor market in the first place. At the same time, absent that political will there’s no reason to expect any change in productivity to change the current arrangement. At best the people working any jobs that get eliminated are discarded as obsolete, lose their ability to participate in the market, and are eventually handled by the criminal justice system or otherwise removed from consideration.