• Alexstarfire@lemmy.world
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    21 days ago

    There have been dozens, if not more, of impeachable offenses Trump has committed and they don’t care. Why would they care about this, which helps their dear leader?

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      21 days ago

      Because no one cares about Pam Bondi, but the American people care about the Epstein files

      Who’s going to defend her? She made the administration look bad while also pissing off the public

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        In n particular, MAGA care about the Epstein files. This is a major crack in their coalition. They spent years throwing around conspiracy theories about pedophile cults secretly running the world. They are obsessed with the Epstein files, and the more Trump tries to obfuscate their contents, the more they have to start wondering what his skin in the game is. We’re already seeing it happen with people like MTG publicly turning on him.

        It’s still a cult. They don’t want to suspect dear leader of anything. But the more he works to conceal stuff, the more they’re trapped between two things they hold at absolute truths. One of them has to give eventually.

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        21 days ago

        Who’s going to defend her?

        More pressing, who is going to prosecute her? To date, I’ve seen zero impulse under any prior administration to prosecute the wrongdoing of outgoing officials.

        The closest case has been the half assed effort to get Leticia James on… misreporting a mortgage statement?

        Nobody at the highest levels of government and business actually want to fuck with one another. It is always and forever punching down on the plebs.

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          21 days ago

          Congress. They can just impeach her

          I mean she could refuse to leave, but then she’d be committing all sorts of crimes on a daily basis

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            I mean she could refuse to leave, but then she’d be committing all sorts of crimes on a daily basis.

            Now Trump definitely won’t fire her. He loves criminals who do crimes for him.

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              No he doesn’t… He doesn’t give a shit about them. He’s abandoned so many loyalists it’s crazy

              He talks shit about them even. He relishes when they get punished in his name

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              21 days ago

              No, Trump loves Trump. Everyone else is useful until they’re not, at which point they get thrown under the bus or conveniently commit suicide.

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              21 days ago

              Yes, but really no.

              They impeached him, which is the name of the procedure to remove an official from office, but then they didn’t have the Senate votes to remove him from office

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                  21 days ago

                  Us, right now?

                  This isn’t a unicorn. Literally the entire Senate voted to release the Epstein files, that unanimously passed law in the Senate was not followed

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      21 days ago

      The only thing the military should be doing is locking up the administration for crimes against humanity

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    Throw it on the heap of all the other illegal shit this administration has done for which they’ll never be punished.

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      21 days ago

      Government be like “I’m gonna count to three…one…two…two and a half…two and three quarters…two and seven eighths…two and fifteen sixteenths…”

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    Then what will be the consequences? I don’t give a fuck that these people are breaking the law if nothing is going to be DONE about it. I want a headline that says Trump and his cronies are to be prosecuted. Not might be! ARE! and I want the trial to happen quickly, not be dragged out for four years, by which time America has irreversibly descendended into fascism!

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    And not shit will ever happen about it. More news at 5!

    It just gets so exhausting. Nothing will happen. No one will be held accountable. Ever. USA USA USA!!!

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      Nothing will ever change until the American people take to the streets and demand it. Stop waiting for someone else to fix it. They won’t.

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        Ah yes how do you propose they do that women and children in the back so they get shot and killed last?

        Or what’s your suggestion?

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          Sustained protests have changed a lot in the past few years. You can ask France, Spain, Germany, Italy, Greece, The Netherlands, Serbia, Nepal, South Korea did it with varying degrees of success.

          Maybe even the Home of the Brave could do it. Don’t let your pessimism get in your way.

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            21 days ago

            Bulgaria’s far-right government, Madagascar, Indonesia very recently, Myanmar’s still ongoing.

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          Nobody is gunning down Americans, the outcome of that is the right and left uniting to topple the US government or at least to remove every representative from power, everyone knows this. US’s “fierce individualism” means there is always a precarious risk of going too far. This is why the powers that be have worked so fucking hard to divide us and make us afraid of each other and the “other side.”

          That said, the marches are useless without political action to capitalize on the momentum.

          Mussolini was not captured and executed by a plucky band of rebels who fought the Italian government. He was handed over to opposition forces BY the government when they realized that they could no longer sustain the current system. The king personally arrested him.

          Nations are huge. They don’t turn on a dime, and you need politics to change things. A lot of leftists have a very dumb notion of how this needs to happen, and think that we can “do our own Jan 6th” and it will somehow work. It didn’t work then, it won’t work now.

          We march, we mobilize, we organize, but we start at home, in your community, in your town or city, and we spread it through the state. We share information and vote in actual representatives for seats that largely go uncontested because people only care about democracy every four years when the circus comes to town. Vote out the current DNC stooges, vote out the sitting nobodies who want to preserve the status-quo, vote out the people who can’t say anything bad about the companies paying them. If we do that, AND march and protest, we take the country back. Right now though it’s plenty hard enough to get someone to finish reading a comment this long, much less go research who’s up for reelection in their school board or what’s the ruling history of their local judges.

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            Are you aware of Kent State or the Detroit riots? They have shot and killed protestors before and no one banded together then and no one will band together now.

            Also refer to how they have DEA and friends use their facial recognition on protestors all the time and then show up at your house with bogus charges.

            Its easy to say do something from an armchair and I feel you, I wish we could do something

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              1967 is a long way off from where we are now with a live camera feed in everyone’s pocket. That happened in a time where we were fresh out of segregation and most people read it as a “black problem” and moved on. While we still have a lot of division today, it’s not the same. We have growing momentum already with massive marches and protests, and division already happening within the government and administration.

              The events where the US government has shot down protestors has paved the way for where we are now, those were large black marks on history that the government does not want to repeat, the powers that be are terrified of someone broadcasting a similar event. The desire to preserve the status-quo comes from a much higher power, the now-metastasized force of corporate power that wants people divided enough to not band together, but not so much that the system breaks and people stop buying shit.

              Otherwise, they would have done it already. They want to so badly, they just want it to be a perfect situation where it appears like some organized antifa or hispanic terrorist group appear like organized insurgents, and so far that hasn’t happened because those kinds of groups don’t actually exist and we’re not in a war with insurgents.

              All that said, I do not think our answer is going to be any kind of armed assault on DC. There will be no charismatic leader that waves the flag of revolution, we will not have that storybook ending. It’s the fantasy of children who can’t imagine or grasp the complexity and actual systemic challenge of changing the course of an entire nation with hundreds of millions of people.

              Even if we succeeded, we would still have to live next to the millions of people who didn’t want us to do a coup, and so far I haven’t met a single progressive/leftist who has an answer for what to do about that.

              Its easy to say do something from an armchair and I feel you, I wish we could do something

              That’s what I am saying, and I am speaking from very much a NOT armchair place on this, I’ve done my time on asphalt. And you can do community organizing from your chair. But again, it takes discomfort, exposure to condemnation from people who don’t agree with your takes, people paid to squash messaging from anyone revealing dark stains on a local candidates career and so on.

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      The last several federal elections have seen the highest turnout in US history.

      The problem is not turnout, it’s information. Exit polling has shown over and over that the median voter, the bulk of our voting base, have no idea what’s going on because they don’t know who or what is real. We had Obama voters voting for Trump. We had Bernie bros voting for Trump. When asked, these people shrugged and broadly felt it didn’t matter. This is by design, the powers behind the power want YOU to tune out and think that voting is useless.

      The DNC is a container, the contents have spoiled, we can pour the contents out and replace them. This is the best bet to turn things around, and anyone who doesn’t see that obviously has no actual idea of the scale and scope of the nation’s electoral system.

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        have no idea what’s going on because they don’t know who or what is real.

        oh fuck no. They choose to believe what they want to hear. That’s what the digital era has done, you can get news all day long that tells you what you want to hear, and “news sources” like Fox poll viewers on what they want to hear, not actual news.

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    Until the dems control Congress with a healthy majority, nobody in this administration will face accountability.

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      Even after dems have healthy majority these people won’t face backlash.

      It’s two hands of the same body. They’re working together.

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        the reason they’ll say for no prosecution ?something like “so we can focus on our mission, let the healing start and so we can move forward together” ™

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      I don’t believe the democrats will prosecute these people either. The only way I see justice ever being done is if there’s a violent revolution or a war

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    Bondi’s been on the outs for a while now. They’re just throwing whatever blame at her to rationalize getting rid of her. People might think her eventual departure is good, and it is, but they’ll just put some other just as awful person in her place.