I just joined Lemmy today after uninstalling Reddit Is Fun. It was absolutely surreal just how much habit was in pulling out my phone and pressing the space where RIF used to be. Decided I’m kind of mostly done with Reddit other than quick information look ups on the website.
So here I am! First post! The only constant in life is change. Hello everyone, I hope we all get along! :)
Goodnight Apollo, my sweet prince.
Hello Memmy 🫡
You may have already seen this, but there is a web app for Lemmy that looks and functions very similar to Apollo:
I’ve been trying it today, and it’s pretty good.
Holy shit, the developer has put some serious work in. I didn’t know web apps could be that good. There’s some insane attention to detail going on here
Damn… I hadn’t been paying attention and thought that was actually exclusively an iOS app when I’d seen it mentioned before… Looks interesting.
Nah, it’s for everyone.
And if you save it to your Home Screen as an app it feels really good to use.
Yes… This is what I learned and the reason for my comment. It looks very interesting as I said. Not bad at all.
You can use it oN Android and feels ilegal, but ilegally awesome.
WTF! i been on lemmy for 2 weeks and this is my first time seeing this! Thanks
e: This is friggin amazing!
No prob, fam!
I’m just curious; why is it a web app and not something you can download? The black bar in the bottom of the screen makes it feel weird, also the fact that upvote/downvote colors are reversed. Other than that, it soothens my withdrawals from Apollo, and I think I’ll be using it a fair amount alongside Memmy (which feels nice, it’s not a 100% carbon copy, but familiar)
Click the share button and save it your home screen it’ll save and operate as an app. It’s a web app just a new build option that makes it easier for something to be accessible in multiple ways.
It’s insane because the dev has only been working on this for three weeks. And it’s the best progressive web app I’ve ever seen. Almost feels native on my iPhone other than the lack of haptic feedback.
Wow, thanks for this.
Wefwef feels like home. I was using Apollo for years and this feels very natural
Wow! It really does feel very similar to Apollo. It will undoubtedly make the transition easier.
Thanks!
Check out Memmy if you haven’t already. It’s the best IOS Lemmy app I’ve tried by far, and really reminds me of Apollo.
This web app is really nice too though. It’s cool that we’re getting such good options.
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Incredible, and the dev keeps updating it like twice a day.
I’m also running a copy alongside my instance, thelemmy.club at app.thelemmy.club
I never was really fond of web apps but this is great.
Damn, that looks just like Apollo!
That’s the idea, but better because Fediverse>Reddit.
The dev is constantly updating it and is super communicative. Heres a link to the community
Oh nice! Subscribed.
If only this was a native ios app 😭
I said this in another comment, but check out Memmy if you haven’t already! It’s the best I’ve used so far and totally reminds me of Apollo.
Didn’t the Apollo developer say that he was planning on porting his app to the fediverse?
Voyager now… i know this thread us really old.
No, some other apps have
I think a lot of moderators are just going to back down and return to business-as-usual from tomorrow. Reddit will suffer as a business but this isn’t going to downright kill the site. Unlike say… Tumblr or OnlyFans, Reddit has a far more diverse clientele and many of them couldn’t give a shit about third-party apps.
These half-arsed protests staged after the 14th June have told me that most of Reddit’s mods are fucking cowards who are more afraid of losing their status as internet janitors than all the third-party apps.
Reddit’s moderators could have easily brought the site to its knees if they just collectively stopped enforcing rules (including site-wide ones), removed Automoderator, unbanned everybody, then told the community to just go nuts.
The mods of /r/interestingasfuck had the right idea by encouraging users to post NSFW content, since this would have chased away advertisers in droves.
I mean the whole “sexy pics of John Oliver” protest that /r/pics had isn’t going to chase away advertisers and was something that Spez could easily ignore, but having your content displayed alongside a flood of explicit pornographic images definitely will.
I’d argue it will become like Facebook, with the younger and more intelligent crowd leaving the site.
Excuse me! I’m older and more intelligent, thank you very much.
I’m on the older side, can’t comment anything about the intelligent part.
Visiting Reddit now just feels like watching teenagers raging against bots. Like YouTube on steroids. You can’t convince me anyone there is older than, being generous, 25.
Older-than-me-people (50+) are still playing Candy Crutch on Facebook.
I’d argue that you’re right, and that it has already happened. If the bootlicking crowd on Reddit is actually organic users hearing a call to action to start commenting after months and years of inactivity, that is. Reddit is known to operate large networks of sock puppet accounts for fake engagement and narrative control (per Venture Beat’s reporting, which quotes an admission from Huffman).
Speaking of bootlickers, the last couple of days I’ve seen endless posts from “users” saying no one actually cares, protests failed, protesters are just trying to defend the profits of third party apps etc. Smells of copypasta and astroturfing.
Plausible. With only a fraction of Reddit’s supposed size, Lenny+kbin are already nearing parity in quality of discourse.
Yep, this is the difference, on Reddit, you would get a response from bots and trolls all the time. Sure there were some subreddits where heavy moderation fixed it, but in over a decade at Reddit, I only found 3 communities like that.
The upshot of that was I stopped posting on Reddit, but here it feels different and more welcoming. I know it won’t always be like this, but just now it feels like something new, untainted, and more importantly, wants to improve the experience for its users…unlike that bellend spez.
It was actually the olds that left first, the ones who remember what the internet was like before corporations came in and dominated everything.
Medium old. Actual old people make Facebook what it is.
Yeah, older Millenials and Gen Xers, not Boomers.
The front page has gotten worse and worse over the last few weeks. Posts are just filled with Top Level spam comments with no replies. There has to be some kind of coordinated effort by the admins to make it look like the site is still doing fine.
The protest wasn’t successful, but it’s made enough people think twice about their reddit usage that it did something. I think a lot of the mods thought thought that reddit would cave, and now they haven’t they’re facing the destruction of what many of them have built from next to nothing (Mostly mid size subreddits) they’re not prepared to nuke it all.
Why would they continue work on a site where in reality they have zero control.
Up until now, they probably thought they had, but now it’s clear they don’t.
It now turns out, that mods can be overruled and even excluded from the community they started.
I agree the mods could and should have done a lot more to protest more effectively as you said. Reddit will be around for a long time to come I suspect, but in a steadily decreasing manner, with its effectiveness and relevance as an (often good) information source fading away.
The mods would need to have some actual conviction instead of being selfish losers for this to happen.
All they care about is their own modding, tools, power, etc
As soon as it looked like they might lose their mod powers they caved.
that’s pretty embarrassing. they should’ve opened the flood gates and walked away. i modded a /r/technology for a minute and there was just so much backroom bickering about moderation philosophy applied to every borderline spam case. idk why anyone would want to engage in that constantly.
You’re obviously too good of a person to have continued to be a mod
It would be nice if mods where the type of people who didn’t want to be mods.
i wouldn’t go that far, but i think it is like policing and government where the people who would be best suited for the job are usually the type who wouldn’t really want to do it.
I’ve modded various places over the years, my outlook has always been that keeping the conversation going is important.
Content of the conversation really doesn’t matter so much, as long as it’s not just wildly inappropriate. Users need to have thick skin to participate, there is no ‘agenda’ to something like a ‘general’ forum of discussion and there are no right or wrong opinions.
You can argue opinion as a user, but not action opinion as a moderator, or you’re becoming a curator. A lot of moderation on reddit is curative, imo
Creates toxic echo chambers
Sorry I’m rambling
I hope Reddit fully dies off- that site is a cesspool and deserves to meet a fate similar to tumblr & myspace.
Can’t be worse than what Musk just did.
Even as somebody who has never used, and will likely never need Apollo, I am really grateful for what he did. However unintentionally, I think he ripped the mask off how rotten the management structure was. It’s one thing to sell ads and collect hidden metadata. Pretty much all the apps do it. But the whole way Reddit treated him was beyond despicable.
Agreed. When I saw the Apollo thread, my first thought was ‘Nah, not even spez would do this’ but I choked on that very fast when I saw the e-mails, the audio recordings and everything. It was so blatant, so asinine, so horribly fucked up.
I’ve never used the Apollo app, but millions of people did and in stead of thanking him for all his work, reddit just stabbed him in the back. Can’t believe there are people still taking reddit’s side on this, it’s crazy.
undefined> Can’t believe there are people still taking reddit’s side on this, it’s crazy.
The AMA where Christian called his bluff was just magical.
It blows my mind that people are actually defending Reddit on this.
because they think it’s just some dude who profitted off of reddit’s goodwill without giving anything back, and now poor ol’ reddit just wants to make a couple bucks to pay the bills.
Yeah, essentially taking spez’s word for it. Ignoring the fact that before April, Reddit used bend over backwards to help developers. Christian Selig even said nothing but great things about Reddit corporate before they dropped the bomb.
Don’t tell me Reddit didn’t know people were writing third-party apps.
But we ended up with garbage like this: https://youtu.be/JHDrK2E62SA
It blows my mind that people are actually defending Reddit on this.
I seriously think Reddit is operating a sock puppet scheme to push a narrative. They’ve done it before, and they’ve bragged about it to the press.
That is why there are so many baby accounts or long dormant accounts that suddenly came to life in the last couple weeks. This is a company which is coming off a month-long campaign of libeling and slandering its top third party developers, and then gish galloping all over the site after the recordings and emails were published.
Then you have Huffman idolizing Musk, saying he wants to do to Reddit what Musk did to Twitter.
Good third party apps cannot come to Lemmy and Kbin fast enough.
Are there? Must be a bigsub/shill thing.
I hope Lemmy will be successful, and maintain healthy communities.
Excited for Lemmy.
Reddit was it was good while it lasted, but it was just a container for online communities. The AP protocol is superior to a centralized model in every way.
Onwards you beautiful nerds!
Only thing which isn’t great is the fragmentation of communities. For example having several different soccer communities, or several diff gaming ones, etc.
It’s early days though, (among the rapid increase in numbers), as people move and instances get discovered and linked the best communities for everyone will rise… Might not be just one though… To keep the football community example, there could be a good instance for match treads, but another could be great for championship clubs or non league or whatever… Fragmentation or choice? :)
Yeah to be honest it probably doesnt matter all that much. Another point would be that theres several communities I would like that dont even exist on any instance so its not even a complaint yet lol
I don’t necessarily see this as a problem. Part of me yearns for the days of vbulletin and phpBB forums, where each one was small enough that it had its own unique culture and feel. You “knew” the people you were interacting with and were able to build camaraderie with fellow forum members.I couldn’t tell you the username of 99% of the people I engaged with on Reddit. Having a huge, monolithic community ala Reddit completely destroys any sort of culture of the community.
This is the best of both worlds, in my eyes. Naturally, certain communities in certain instances will become the community for a topic, but with the added benefit of being able to find a smaller, more focused community elsewhere.
I agree, I hated when some of the subs I was in would brag about hitting a number like 100,000 members. After a certain point more members doesn’t add any value at best, and and at worst actually hurts the quality of the community. The bigger numbers were just an ego thing for the mods.
Yup, for a very long time I used reddit for nothing but r/NBA. You often had quality posts with substance and users generally knew what they were talking about. Compare that to today, and every single thread is filled with nothing but memes and shit posts that don’t actually add anything to the conversation.
The problem is how do you know how a community feels?
I search for “word” and see 12 different servers for the exact same word, which would I go for? For now it’s the one with the most subscribers
You can’t trust the subscriber numbers, it appears it’s only counting subscribers from the server you are on.
Well, presumably, you visit the community and check it out. There is nothing wrong with what you’re doing and it’s exactly how the natural gravitation to certain communities I mentioned will happen. If you’re not interested in anything other than the content that community offers, then you’re set. If you want to explore more and perhaps get different insights and perspectives on that topic, you’re free to go visit any of the other 12 options and check them out, too.
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Already seeing high latency for our instance. Guessing everyone realized the impending doom and created accounts on one of the easier instances to join. Welcome, fellow lemmings!
Can confirm, it completely cracked
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I’m solely here to hurt Spez’s wallet
Me too
Hope that hate is strong enough to build a home on, no going back to that rickety submersible.
Try lemm.ee instance and Liftoff app. Awesome combo of fast instance and pretty stable app.
Is it bad that I only recently discovered this site?
Of course not, welcome to the fediverse :)
Not at all, plenty of people are about to join for the first time. Have fun!!
I feel like everyone here just recently discovered this site in the last month 😂
Why would it be?
Not at all! I also joined Lemmy recently as part of the great Reddit migration.
You discovered it, so no, it’s good :)
edit: although you missed the “3 days no poop” meme, now the equivalent of reddit’s poop knife
Oh yeah!
The vibrant ecosystem of third party apps is what made Reddit, from what I’ve heard even the official app is a reskin of what used to be a third party apps. Pushing that ecosystem to Lemmy (I have 7 actively developing Lemmy apps installed on my phone) could spell eventual death for Reddit, and was a very unwise long term decision.
Don’t forget the current lockdown and eventual (this is an assumption) removal of NSFW content. Porn is not IPO friendly, but one should never underestimate the amount of regular traffic it can produce. When traffic metrics are collected, they rarely filter out NSFW. There’s already lemmynsfw.com, and I’m sure it won’t be the last.
What’s your favorite of the 7 so far?
I’m not the OP, but out of Jerboa, Connect, and LiftOff I like LiftOff the most so far. Jerboa would be higher up if it worked more.
I’m using the webpage and it is just as good as an app if not better since you have the full functionality.
Well, that’s not entirely true at least on lemmy.world. On the web version there’s the infinite spam of content that happens when you sort by Hot or Top Day that will just eventually crash your browser, whereas on the app that doesn’t happen.
Im on ios and liftoff is my favorite too. Thunder is 2nd.
I thought memmy was the best one on ios. liftoff is on testflight?
Yes its on test flight. See here for invite —-> https://lemmy.world/post/743060
Connect for Lemmy. Thunder and Wefwef have better swiping features but Connect has swiping features, saved posts, and slightly better sorting, so right now it’s my favorite app in terms of balancing what features it’s implemented.
Liftoff is awesome!
