But my rosin vape doesn’t do that. I might cough if I puff too many times in a row but even then it doesn’t hurt, just tickles. What is added to standard vapes that I am reacting too? Is it a quality problem or should I just get rosin from now on?

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    The terpenes used in vape carts to dilute and reintroduce flavor and aroma (which is lost in some extraction methods) also produces harmful byproducts when vaped. [1]

    Should straight up avoid any flavored vape juices.

    Some of the food-safe diluent agents used in vape products may be harmful when aerosolized and inhaled, as they were never actually studied under those conditions.

    [Cannabis] extracts are not diluted in propylene glycol or glycerol like nicotine due to their hydrophobic properties. Instead, various forms of oils including vegetable oils, terpenes, and tocopheryl acetate (vitamin E acetate) have been reported as diluents. In most reported cases of EVALI, additional flavoring additives are also added to products.

    Although many of these diluent agents and flavorings have been “generally recognized as safe” for oral ingestion by the FDA, recent research shows that when heated to form an aerosol and inhaled, conditions including bronchitis, bronchiolitis, acute hypoxic respiratory distress, lipoid-associated pneumonia, and pneumonitis may result. [2]

    There’s poor regulation when it comes to a lot of the products out there, especially those sold in gas stations and smoke shops (but also can be an issue in dispensaries).

    Another problem with vape pens and e-cigs is the cheap atomizers/coils used, especially in disposables. There have been confirmed cases of these coils/atomizers leeching heavy metals into the vapor produced.[3]

    This is such a new and under-studied area I personally find it’s not worth risking it vaping concentrates. I’ll stick with my dry herb vaping with my Volcano and Mighty+, which are actually certified medical devices. [4]

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      Not OP, but thanks for the well-sourced info, I appreciate it. I’ve wondered about some of that before.

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        No problem. Also worth looking into bong lung, the barotrauma associated with bong use, and the counter-effectiveness of water filtration (removes more THC from smoke than tar).

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    I use a Pax2 and it never makes me cough. What are you referring to by “Vapes”? Concentrate pens ?

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        Well, fully keep it green by not needing a disposable the pax offers several models, one takes concentrates. Carts & disposables get super clogged and nasty anyway even if you get the high end ones, and you are basically throwing to the bin electronics and batteries like crazy .

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        Well, fully keep it green by not needing a disposable the pax offers several models, one takes concentrates. Carts & disposables get super clogged and nasty anyway even if you get the high end ones, and you are basically throwing to the bin electronics and batteries like crazy .

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      It’s not good, obviously, but it’s better than combustion and I have to believe better than concentrate. But there just isn’t any empirical evidence to confirm at this point.

      I just had a physical and mentioned I dry herb vape, which he was unfamiliar with. My heart and lungs sound fine and I’ve been a daily user for years. Grain of salt, of course.

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      You might be vaping at too high of a temp. Also, try holding the vapor in your mouth for a few seconds to cool it before inhaling it.

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      Yeah the dry herb vape has also been fine. Though it is easier to get my hands on processed weed than the flowers.

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    Cartridge vapes can have stuff added to them to dilute the product especially cheaper ones with no lab testing, rosin vapes are less likely to be diluted but are usually much pricier. Instead of cartridge vaporizers get a good electric dry herb vape and use flower or concentrates that have been tested.

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      I got both a disposable rosin and concentrate vape from the same dispensary. I even got 510 cartridges and tried them at various temp settings and they all made me cough while the resin did not. Maybe I am using the wrong technique. I did know there was a wrong way to inhale it.

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        With vape, don’t inhale immediately after you’ve pulled. Instead, pull, let the smoke cool down a bit in your mouth, and then inhale. That usually alleviates the cough.

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          It’s 3-4 hits with the rosin, I already know that much. If only my dry herb vape had one of those little wax bowls! I really only have used the electronic stuff and edibles. I’m not a real stoner.

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    What brand do you mean by Standard vapes, unless Standard is a brand? I use Arizer and it’s never been an issue

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        Yeah, that’s a bad sign. You should probably avoid the random juices and just get a dry herb vape. What’s from the Earth is of the greatest worth, and all that.

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    try turning the battery down to the lowest voltage. and preheat so you don’t have a long time beforenitnhits (reduces the surprise.)

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      I’ve tried the lowest setting and it makes a bit of a difference but not enough to make it a pleasant experience.