With the given that I have never seen any reddit protocols for temporary or permanent bans it seems like there is no protocol. It is really based on the individual opinions of admins. This is no different than the way it works with mods of groups. It is mostly a subjective decision.

What you can’t do is call another user a cunt or something similar without getting banned from that group. You will also have an issue if you call a public figure a cunt or something similar. You will never be able to use any form of argument to endorse violence or the destruction of property. Before a group mod removes your comment, other users might “report” it. And if enough do it will trigger the Admins seeing it and in my opinion this is what causes permanent bans. Not only did you violate their stated rules in a group, but now you have drawn the attention of an Admin who has the ability to perm ban you site wide.

One of the biggest changes I have seen is a greatly increased auto moderator. Many posts and comments never make it to any group where you can see them because they have automatically been removed. They have beefed up their filters that immediately catch things like “nazi” and even the word “violence”. Individual group mods then have the ability if they wish to “approve” posts and comments caught up in the auto moderator.

It has been asked how can I get a site wide ban for 7 days and then the next time I log in and I am permanently banned. Not sure but again seems subjective based on the amount of reports that were filed against you and the mood that day of an Admin

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      These are reddit admins, they are the ones implementing the sweeping ban purges going on, at the behest of SPez. The mods are just complicit.

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    I had a 11 year old account on Reddit. Used it pretty much daily. Last week I got a 3-day ban. No idea what I wrote that was wrong, as Reddit removes the content. Two days after that ban, I got another 7day ban. Now I do know what post it refered too, and in no way it violated their rule about violence. So I appealed and, ofcourse, it was denied. Not ok, but I could let that pass, except the refusal refered to the wrong content, namely the one from the first ban. I appealed again and they just banned my account. I don’t know if I’m even going to bother making a new one.

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      So apparently if they don’t like your “appeals” they just perm ban you. That’s bullshit. You will have to jump through a lot of hoops to create a new one that isn’t banned in a day for ban evasion

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        Spend last night removing the account and one other I hadn’t accessed in years (was even older than my main account). Made a new account, which lasted a few hours before getting banned.

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            I wiped out cookies on my phone. Used my son’s Google account he abandoned and made a new reddit account. I will see how long it lasts. Hasn’t been 48 hrs yet. I did modmail them in help about appeal and asked a couple questions about my unique situation. No response but no site wide ban yet, my two accounts still suspended. What gives? Are they teasing me? It’s not shadow banned either. I will just give it time before their bot catches it. Maybe the admins are sitting back and waiting for it to happen. I swear they’re incompetent if they have bots do their jobs for them and ignore users requests and modmails about suspensions.

            Now I won’t log into my banned accounts. I’m guessing emails that were associated with banned accounts will be auto suspended. Youtube works that way too. Have a recovery email linked to your email that was used with account that got banned, auto banned. I have different emails, including one from when I was 17 I hadn’t used in years.

            Oh yeah and I got two newsletters from reddit about how to get karma and then the second one telling me to get karma.

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        It kinda goes the same as report abuse, if they don’t like your reports in a given time, you get permabanned for reporting multiple users for violating policies. You also notice they increased their usage of using AI to respond to your appeals now toom

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      They will just shadowban you if you try to make a new account. Right now it’s a really bad time to make a new account, I visited the shadowban sub because I got the ban and noticed a huge amount of people reporting their shadow and, were due to, soon after account creation, or a comment removal for not having enough karma, cqs, age, or getting linked with a strangers account and banned in bulk

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    A lot of the ban are automatic. Mods also use bots to make bans.

    If you use a public computer, or an older system, you seem to get shadowbanned because your IP address is copied by a spammer and once that happens they use cross-editing to build a profile so even a new IP will get shadowbanned.

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      I think this is how i got banned. I used hotel wifi to save on data and I was listening to YouTube and I got on reddit forgetting I wasn’t on mobile data. The suspension happened two weeks later and then my main account got banned because it was connected on my reddit app and logged in with my alt account.

      I got kafkaesque banned. Just a generic message you get about multiple repeated violations when you have been suspended before and opened a new account and got caught for ban evasion. Reddit admins ignore appeals and messages about it. They let bots handle it. Even my friend tried to ask them for me in r/help about my unique situation but it got removed quickly.

      My only defense is i never recieved any other messages about site rules I broke and no previous suspensions and I used hotel wifi and no other accounts are mine that got linked. They’re supposed to have the 3 strike rule and 4th offense, perm suspension. I never got that.

      I didn’t get shadowbanned, I got site wide suspension.

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        I had the same message of bans, February. If any of your old accounts were permanent in a sub you will get the axe, even if you commented in the same sub more than 1 year later with a different account l.

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          But I never commented in subs i got banned from. That’s the thing. I had been using my alt for a couple of months. I’m thinking it was an IP thing when I used hotel wi fi so another suspended account got linked to mine and whatever reddit admin did with their bot for updates got my accounts suspended hours apart. This isn’t the first time reddit has messed up with their bots and knowledge it. They only do something about it when moderators make a big stink about bans like subreddit bans, bunch of their users getting banned. It’s happened before. Then they fix it by uplifting the bans.

          Some reason my new account isn’t banned yet and I haven’t commented. Maybe because I cleared cookies on my browsers, logged out of all suspended accounts, made a new one with email not associated with any emails to my banned accounts.

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            it seems like these types of ban are increasing, shadowbans that is? ive been noticing alot of people have been getting the banhammer. all you can do is appeal your original account, they ban any new account you create, if you havnt resolved your older one. the filters on reddit are extremely sensitive now. a simple comment removal is enough to trigger a ban, also accounts linking with another stranger can be a cause too, although theres no concrete proof.

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                it gets real fuzzy, but they seem to be retroactively banning accounts if your on a different acc, and they look at your connected accounts. but reddit is way too ban happy right now. before that i just used some of my warmed up or old accounts and avoid the sub that you got a violation on.

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    They definitely have known triggers and filters for banning. In another forum they go through this in greater detail…they look at any sudden activity after account creation, which indicates botting, like posting in certain subs with high cqs, karma, age, scores. They have something called vcaptcha V3, which is basically monitors your clicks, scrolling, length of time on a specific page. VPNs, bad proxies are a dead giveaway your account is going to spam or not. Spammy behaviour is recorded in several ways, they record your cookies, browser fingerprints, your device time and location, etc.

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    The 7 day ban followed by a permanent ban seems to be a pattern idk why they do that but its basically a guaranteed perm ban when the temp ban nears an end, happened to me too

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      I noticed that in a lot of other people too. Also the sudden account suspension requiring a password change is a dead giveaway that your account will be shadow banned too. I just had one account that suffered it this waym