You might have a point. Personally I go out of my way to make sure that people think I’m arguing in good faith. I think the absolute worst thing is to give someone, especially someone who is one the fence, any reason to think I’m just like the people he’s moving away from. Some of them have been told that everything not originating from Trump-approved media is Fake News, and this picture of Hegseth is definitely fake news.

It seems like there’s almost certainly a confounding variable here: the kids who are likely to engage in criminality are also the ones most likely to do poorly in school, skip classes, and be held back.

You’re conclusion doesn’t follow. Case in point: kids who are kicked out of school are more likely to become criminals because they are children and have potentially lost the only thing remaining in their lives that kept them on any path of any kind. And they don’t have to start dealing drugs and robbing people with all the extra time they have. A kid who has dropped out or been expelled can still be charged with truancy in most jurisdictions, and their parents charged with the same crime and fined (up to $1,000 in many places). An underage child can be taken from their parents based on truancy violations alone. Then there’s loitering, trespassing, panhandling, and a whole mess of other non-violent offenses that give a high school-aged child a criminal record.

A person isn’t a criminal until they’ve committed a crime. They aren’t a convict until they’ve been found guilty of crime. Most of the kids being expelled, suspended, sent to Alternative Learning “SuperMAX” Centers are non-violent offenders. They are put out because they can’t behave.

The argument from here is often that we have to put the undesirables somewhere. After all, it’s not fair to sacrifice the education of the other, well-behaved students. I agree. I also assume that most people would want to help these children. On that assumption, I’ll finish this post with two bits of info:

• COPS In Schools (CIS) was created after the Columbine shootings. The grant appropriated $750-million to hiring police offers (School Resource Officers or SROs) for placement in schools. Despite their fancy title, these are police officers and they can and do, at a frightening rate, arrest children.
• In 2022, a bipartisan bill, the 2022 Bipartisan Safe Communities Act, was enacted. It granted $1-billion dollars to the nationwide development of mental health resources (counselors, social workers, programs) in schools, and the entire country rejoiced. In 2024, the Trump admin cut the grant because of DEI.

We’ve chosen to police children instead of help them.

What you’re saying seems obvious but I don’t think it’s as simple as that. However, @stepan@lemmy.cafe said “somehow manage to ignore it”. I don’t think anyone ignores trauma in the way this implies. Unaddressed trauma is a ticking time bomb, period.

Trauma comes in all shapes and sizes. When you get into the weeds, the word actually becomes useless on its own. What becomes important is the type, source, and severity of the trauma. When comparing one group to another, circumstances play just as large of a role. For example:

Neurodivergents are much less likely to have romantic relationships, and the odds are even worse of them having children. Thus, they experience trauma related to rejection, loneliness, shame and unfulfilled evolutionary drives (among other things) at a much higher rate than neurotypicals. However, they experience the trauma of miscarriage, abortion, loss of a child, divorce, death of a spouse, and spousal abuse at a much lower rate than neurotypicals.

Are there a whole slew of things unique to neurodivergents that are compounded by societal or cultural incompatibilities (bullying, social rejection, invalidation, etc.) that neurotypicals will likely never understand? Absolutely. Do neurodivergents have much higher rates of suicide in adulthood than neurotypicals? Yes. Do these have anything to do with whether or not neurotypicals are seemingly better at getting-by because they ignore their trauma? No. They’re better at getting-by because the world is built for them. But that doesn’t mean they don’t live in a prison of their own.

Problem is that the school-to-prison pipeline is a very real thing and kids that are held back or don’t finish school are far more likely to end up in prison than those that finish. The way school systems work in most of the US, the differences in outcomes for those with and without a high school diploma are stark and depressing. Finishing is as important as the education itself.

Read: End of Policing - Alex S. Vitale

Me to my lab.

No offense but this is a very self-centered and immature viewpoint. Trauma is a fact of human existence. Just because the world is designed for neurotypicals doesn’t mean the world isn’t still traumatic for them. Case in point: trauma for physical assault, sexual abuse, loss of a loved one, severe injury, cancer, losing a job (and the avalanche that can start).

None of us know what goes on behind closed doors.

• Be company
• Need RAM
• RAM no exist
• Order RAM, guarantee payment on delivery. Capital set aside. This order is a contract. It’s not Amazon. 5, 6, 7 digit deals being made.
• RAM gets made. Capacity, materials, labor set aside to make RAM, not random guy (sad). Capacity/capital assigned to my RAM not available for sad guy.
• RAM exist, delivered. Exchange occurs. I got RAM, they got money. Sad guy still no RAM.
• I put RAM in systems that don’t exist yet that were ordered by AI company for a data center that doesn’t exist yet. Sad guy still no RAM.
• Sad guy never had a chance to get the RAM. Assumes he has a right to RAM, memes on Reddit so that guy can download it and post it on Lemmy. Still no RAM, though.
• Another guy pretends to not understand this and takes peanut butter analogy literally even though it is obviously oversimplified. Probably sad about no RAM.
• Guy realizes that all of modern commerce is based on promises of payment for things that don’t exist yet that become inputs for things that don’t exist yet. Guy realizes that optimization of this system is the primary concern of modern manufacturing engineering and is the basis of just-in-time manufacturing and LEAN manufacturing in general.

If the peanut butter isn’t there, you won’t buy it. But everyone in the peanut butter supply chain is behaving as though it will be on the shelf when you need it.

To be fair, this picture was on the front page here for 3 or 4 days and was clearly chosen in bad faith by the outlet because Nazi.

Not saying I don’t want him to walk in front of a moving bus, but everyone knows for a fact at this point that this administration will weaponize anything they can. The Irish Star should know better, but a Nazi salute that wasn’t gets clicks so here we are.

The peanut butter you buy a month from now hasn’t been manufactured yet but the grocery store already has their order in. The grocery store is borrowing money to pay wages for shifts that haven’t been worked yet. The peanut butter manufacturer is placing orders to peanut farms for peanuts that haven’t been harvested yet. The shipping truck manufacturer is putting in orders for tires, wheels, locking mechanisms, and trailers that don’t exist yet, so on and so forth for almost everything in the supply chain.

No great injustice, just business as usual.

Besides the last one, you’re literally describing the way business works.

the reason pbj sammich cost so much is because people are buying pb & j on their credit card to put on bread they haven’t bought yet to make pbj sammiches that don’t exist yet, etc that’s just how shit works.

If it wasn’t in the beginning, it was after Folding Ideas/Dan Olson released “Line Goes Up”.

NO ONE

WANTS

TO DIE

FOR ISRAEL

Jeez. I know that’s a mind fuck.

For the curious ones, from Psychology Today:

“A larger amygdala is primarily associated with increased anxiety, heightened emotional reactivity, and stress-related disorders, often acting as a hyper-active “threat detector” Symptoms frequently include persistent fearfulness, depression, irritability, and hypervigilance, as the brain over-processes neutral stimuli as threats.”

Whoever made the original meme is an absolute moron.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-athletes-way/201311/the-size-and-connectivity-the-amygdala-predicts-anxiety

These days he’s worried about Christo-fascists more than anyone else.

Important to note that Sam Harris argued against Islam as the worst of all evils in the West. He’s no fan of Christians but, at the time, believed he’d rather have Christians running the West than Muslims. At the time, American Christianity was still GWB and Obama’s Christianity, in which case I agreed with Sam. But today? Fuck all of them. Christians, Muslims, Jews. Take your religion and shove it up your asses.

The scale of destruction in Gaza is incomprehensible to me. Like, I see the picture, I know it’s awful, I feel for those affected, but there’s some kind of disconnect.

It’s the same feeling when I look at images of Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Just all emotion is preempted by a numbness, an inability to process. It’s difficult for me to explain, actually. It’s a picture of gray rubble that used to be people and their homes and workplaces and gathering places, but the picture is totally depersonalized. It’s lifeless, both literally and figuratively. No bodies, no blood, no color at all. Look at it from a distance it might look like TV static.

I don’t know. It’s weird.

There was a burger place in my town that was owned and operated by a bunch of women who called themselves a lesbian collective. It was a great hang and the burgers were very, very good.

They basically operated on this sentiment. If you were a dick, you were out. If you thought they were being dicks, you either adjusted your attitude or went hungry. Dead simple, and it worked. They were thriving.

And I don’t mean to make it sound like Patrick Swayze was working the door. It was the exact opposite. Good people running a good establishment serving good food who didn’t take shit off assholes. It’s surprising how much better a place feels for the customers when the employees get to have their dignity.

Unfortunately, they closed during COVID like most of the mom & pops around here. I miss it so much.

Maybe. LLMs are free(ish), meanwhile a single trip to the ER can leave a person destitute. Maybe that’s not so bad (it is) if the ER visit is for something actually urgent, but somewhere between 27% and 40% of ER visits are non-urgent and most are treatable by a PCP. But… ERs have to treat you while, in the US, a primary care physician can look you right in the eyes and turn you away because you have no money.

People don’t want to admit that AI does some good because the companies that own these LLMs are as corrupt as any other and the implications of the corruption of this tech are horrifying. But for health care, including mental health, LLMs are an unexpected godsend.

Uscher-Pines, L., Pines, J., Kellermann, A., Gillen, E., & Mehrotra, A. (2013). Emergency Department Visits for Nonurgent Conditions: Systematic Literature Review. American Journal of Managed Care. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4156292/

Raven, M. C., et al. (2024). Emergency Department Visits That Could Be Managed at Other Care Sites. JAMA Network Open. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2813806

Note to self: convince cute guy friend to try Mint.

Thanks for the tip.

This is a hindsight thing. He was just elected. Unlike Trump, we didn’t learn until 2 or 3 years into the war that GWB was an absolute moron. In 2001, everyone got behind him and the military. And that includes just about anyone in this thread who was alive at the time, and likely their entire nation, and that’s a demonstrable fact.

Edit:

Gallup – Retaliation (Sept 2001) https://news.gallup.com/poll/4891/retaliation.aspx

Gallup – No Wavering in Public Support for War Effort (Dec 2001) https://news.gallup.com/poll/5047/wavering-public-support-war-effort.aspx

Gallup – Americans Say U.S. and Allies Winning War on Terrorism (Nov 2001) https://news.gallup.com/poll/5056/americans-say-us-allies-winning-war-terrorism.aspx

Gallup – Views Mixed on War in Afghanistan (historical polling summary) https://news.gallup.com/poll/266546/views-mixed-war-afghanistan.aspx

CNN / USA Today / Gallup Poll (Oct 2001 support for Afghanistan intervention summary) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_public_opinion_on_the_war_in_Afghanistan